This Plus That is a show about connecting the seemingly un-connectable and why it matters.

Struggle to weave together all of the seemingly un-connectable parts of yourself? Tired of feeling like you can only ever be one thing? Or, sick of being told there’s only one “right” way to be, so you feel like you have to cut off pieces of yourself in order to belong? This podcast is for you.

Join me as I interview people creating lives at the intersections of all their interests and complexities—even and especially if those interests seem paradoxical.

“My mind flows like a melody when I listen to your podcast, like the cogwheels working as they should, oiled and functioning. It is my place of healing.”

Surabhi
Podcast Listener

“I’ve been listening to a stream of podcasts that ultimately led me to you. I’m not entirely sure what to say exactly, but I felt truly connected to all of what I was hearing and it’s pretty rare that this happens to me. I tend to be thinking on some other plane much of the time, and to come across something that feels so inherently accurate is mind-exploding...I often find people attempting to shoehorn me into a niche and I don’t want to. Coming across all of your things felt like a very good gift indeed and I wanted to say thank you.”

Ursula

“[Listening to your podcast has been] like you were speaking not to me, but with me (only with so much more insight & eloquence). I have been frantically trying to find and discover my purpose for what seems like my entire life. But I get it...I’m so disconnected from myself, just as we are from each other & our planet. I now choose to shift my focus to connection...firstly to myself! That is all that is required.”

Jodi

“Growing up in India with a lower-middle-class family, I had no access to the kind of education that could have benefited me. I thought school was a waste of time except for sports. But I enjoyed most as a kid when my grandpa would take me to university libraries and labs to look into beautiful books and microscopes. When I found myself stuck at intersections of thoughts and ideas, I was labeled ‘complex’ and ‘chaotic.’ Your podcast has given me hope for life. I haven’t connected to anything in all entirety as I have with what you speak of and share on your podcast. I feel seen.”

Surabhi

“I just want to join the bandwagon of love to tell you that your work is incredible. Your voice is unique and sincere. Your content makes me (almost literally) vibrate in resonance like no other. I [often listen in bite-size chunks] because it resonates so much it hurts.”

Ruby